What tyres are you running on?

What Tyre Brand are you on? | Yokohama Geolander ATS

What Size are they? | 215/60R16
What type are they | All Terrains
Are they grippy or not? | Yes, noticed very little difference in on road ability to road tyres, probably better than the poor chinese tyres that were on the car when i bought it.

Very good grip off road, I have mainly used in sand and loose dry rocky country and gravel roads, they give a nice direct controlled feel when steering on gravel.

Are they noisy or quiet? | Quiet ish, If you've had full road tyres on at times you will notice some hum.

Are they good for offroad or just onroad use? | See above, very capable on road still and perform very well under braking ability saved me from hitting a very solid pig on a night drive.

What life span are you getting out of them? | Have had them fitted for just over 12 months now and done nearly 15,000km, tread condition is showing wear but at the current rate I expect to get another 30-40000km frmo them.

Do you like them or not really? | Very happy with them at this stage, bought them based on the recommendation of this site and others, and the fact that there is limited selection of genuine A/T tyres in the 215/60/16 range. Will look to go up in sizing when the car is worth nothing in a few years and insurance is not such as issue.
 
What Tyre Brand are you on? Falken WildPeak AT

What Size are they? 215/70R16

What type are they - wet/dry? All Terrain

Are they grippy or not? Overall they are pretty good but can understeer if pushed hard on wet roads, off road grip is great.

Are they noisy or quiet? Fairly quiet but a slight increase over the stock HT tyres.

Are they good for offroad or just onroad use? Overall usage for off-road has been great and for loose dirt roads and wet dirt roads etc ive found to be very good and the On-road performance is ok but IMO they do squirm around a bit when loaded up, but overall a better tyre than the stock Bridgestones.

What Life span are you getting out of them? Ive only done 6000km on them but they are still in as new condition.

Do you like them or not really? Yes overall im very happy with them as they offer a great compromise between On & Off Road Performance and they are also well priced.
 
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What tyre brand are you on? Yokohama Geolandar G91
What size are they? 225/60R17
What type are they HT
Are they grippy or not? Seem fine.
Are they noisy or quiet? Seem quiet.
Are they good for offroad or just onroad use? So far only used them on highways, urban, and dirt tracks. No complaints with any of that.
What life span are you getting out of them? No idea. Delivered by Subaru on new car. Only 2000+ kms so far.
Do you like them or not really? I think I do. Might switch to Geolandar ATS in the same size (or 225/65R17) when they wear out, but we'll see.
 
Just a heads-up about the G91: that's fitted new to Subies and is good to cut your teeth on but don't expect decent life out of them. OEM fitment tyres are often not as good as the same model bought aftermarket.

Re the Geo AT/S, I've just done a winter with them on my Foz, driving up to Falls Ck about 3 times a week and reckon they're pretty good in the snow. Not on par with a dedicated snow tyre but I can't afford 3 sets of wheels.
 
I've got 90000km out of my G91s. They're just about due replacing. These are the original tyres on my 2009 forester. The car gets driven "enthusiastically" on the roads and at least monthly hits the mud and sand. I'm well happy with how well they've lasted.

Athos, I'm also looking at the ATS. I'm not sure what the law is in Victoria but make sure you don't go out side the tyre size increase allowance (there is a thread on here somewhere about the geolanders) I'm running 225 55 17s and going to the 225 65 17s makes my car illegal so I'm going to have to get reduced width 215 65 17s
 
The law in Vic is that you can't go over the placarded tyre by more than 15mm in diameter.

Someone here has posted that acc to ADR or somesuch if the Foz is classed as a 4WD you can. Whatever.

My 2nd set of wheels are reserved for outback and to cope with gibbers, sand and corrugations I've fitted the only light truck AT tyres I could find that were close to legal and they're 7mm over in diameter. I'll take the risk with insurance as LT are essential out there given you have to lower pressures when the rough gets going.

Smokebelch, you got good mileage out of your G91s. My point remains that OEM quality varies and peeps in the industry will confirm that.
 
That was probably me. On the vehicle compliance plate the Forester is classified MC. On the VicRoads website vehicles classified MC can be raised a total of 75mm. 50mm in suspension changes and 25mm in increased tyre diameter. I am pretty sure this also mirrors the ADRs.
 
I did find that the G900s on my first Forester didn't wear very well, so don't have particularly high hopes for the factory-fitted tyres.

FWIW, going from 225/60 to 225/65 adds 11.25mm to the radius. Anyway, I won't be making that decision for a while.
 
Dont make the mistake of thinking 90,000kms fro a tyre is good...its not! It means almost surely your tread is below minimum depth plus the only way to get 60,000kms let alone 90,000kms is by having a hard compound (also deeper tread). A harder comound means less grip...no ifs, ands or buts. More mileage = less grip!!!

If you want a safe tyre, one that will grip when a kid jumps out in front of you on a wet road, then you must sacrifice mileage. If you want mileage, then you must sacrifice safety & grip.

Another way to look at it is, if you spend $900 on tyres every 3 yrs, thats only $300 per year. Rego is twice that, insurance at least twice that, fuel/running costs many times that. My point is if you want to pay $1000s per year in owning a car, then you should either put safe tyres on it for your own safety, your family's safety & for the safety of every other road user...or take taxis!

BTW, I love my Geolander AT-s. They have good grip onroad even in the wet (way better than the Bridgestone HTs I had before) & perform well offroad as well.
 
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NachaLuva said:
Dont make the mistake of thinking 90,000kms fro a tyre is good...its not! It means almost surely your tread is below minimum depth plus the only way to get 60,000kms let alone 90,000kms is by having a hard compound (also deeper tread). A harder comound means less grip...no ifs, ands or buts. More mileage = less grip!!!

If you want a safe tyre, one that will grip when a kid jumps out in front of you on a wet road, then you must sacrifice mileage. If you want mileage, then you must sacrifice safety & grip.
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If he got 90,000kms from his tires and was happy with how they were performing how is that not good?

It is perfectly reasonable to get high kms out of a decent performing tire. My toyo HTs are going on 40k kms and still have easily at least 50% tread left. And grip FAR better than Geolandars and a large amount of HTs for that matter wet or dry.

There is more to milage then just compound. How they are treated (driving style, maintaining correct tire pressures etc) , the roads they are driven on and even the weight of the car.
 
Smokebelch said:
Wow you've traumatised me... I didn't realise I was meant to feel guilty for getting good Kms out of my tyres!
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Im sorry mate, I dont mean to upset you :(

I dont know what its like in other states but in Melb I see cars & even worse 4X4s with bald tyres all the time...every day! There's been so many times I've lost count where I've had to take evasive action to avoid an accident, either from bad tyres or bad driving.

As tyres are the ONLY thing holding you on the road, they should be the first priority, not the last. I was just trying to put some perspective in it. They are not that expensive compared to all the other costs of owning a car. Insurance is more expensive than tyres, yet insurance wont avoid an accident or prevent killing someone while tyres will. Everyday there will be several people who are sitting at home or in the hospital, wishing they werent travelling so fast, or didnt drink, or had better tyres. Knowing that their wife or that little kid would still be alive.

We cant go back in time. Its no use wishing we'd done things differently afterwards. We need to have good tyres before something happens.

I see bad tyres no differently to drink/drug driving or hooning...its avoidable reckless behaviour :(:shake:

Smokebelch, this isnt aimed at you, its a reminder to everyone to perhaps rethink their priorities. Many people spend as much on fuel in 2 months as a complete set of tyres, yet the tyres arent considered till its too late....
 
I just got a set of Bridgestone A/T D694 65's for $200 each at Tempe tyres. Felt great in the rain for the drive home and very quite. Time will tell tho!
 
That's cool NachaLuva. I wasn't really traumatised just stunned for a few minutes!

Slight mistake, my tyres have done 85000km and they are Geolander G95s not G91s. I do run them at quite high pressures... 40psi as recommended by the Subaru dealer that I got it from. Their reasoning was getting maximum mileage plus better fuel consumption out of them. They aren't bald, though the fronts are on the legal limits hence why I'm looking at a set of AT-s.

About a year ago (tyres having done around 75000km) I managed to steer/brake around a dog that ran out in front of me in a 60km zone. The car kept perfectly composed. But to think that I should dump a perfectly good set of tyres at 60000km just in case a kid's stupid enough to run out in front of me on a wet day is stretching things just a bit!

I think it comes down to looking after your investment. Apart from driving enthusiastically around roundabouts I don't thrash the car. I do a lot of straight line driving... not too many corners. All the sand driving I do causes minimum wear to the tyres. I get the wheels rotated and balanced and a wheel alignment at every 6 month service. I guess that the positive (which could also be a negative if you don't like spending $1000 in one go) of having an AWD car is that the tyres wear pretty much evenly so you don't end up with two bald tyres and two legal tyres.


Edit. haha, I mentioned looking after my investment but I spend as much time as possible driving through salty sand!
 
Smokebelch said:
to think that I should dump a perfectly good set of tyres at 60000km just in case a kid's stupid enough to run out in front of me on a wet day is stretching things just a bit!
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That's not the way I read NL's comment. More that if folks only got 60,000km before having to change their tyres, especially if that was because they chose tyres with lots of grip that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
 
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