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Old 4th March 2018, 12:10 AM
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I think my version is earliest and its works with brakes and with cutting engine power/ torque. And from sound it doesnt seems like simple revs lowering its sounds like it doing something more in engine it sounds on exhaust weird when that happens like not all cilinders working or something. Like its limits spark or something. So no its not just brakes. And then again its giving more power as needed to everywheel individually when its needed. So for vdc or any traction control to work diffs must be open too as vdc must know what every wheel is doing. Sometimes itnuses just brakes andnsometimes both brakes and engine revs/ torque.
On standard exhaust you might not hear it but on my louder uel you can hear that sound when vdc cuts engine its like its choking it or something, it sounds funny too.
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Thank you Scalman, I re-looked your videos a few times and effectivily it seems that the spinning wheels are braked first and then the engine looses some revs, probably also because it has to move the wheels having grip.
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If you can do it, it would be a big improvement! But it will be difficult to do. Not just fitting the mechanical parts but also doing all the electrical side. Be prepared to have your Foz off the road for some time while you sort out all the bugs
I wouldn't try it if I didn't have my very best friend being a mechanic, and a good one
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Old 4th March 2018, 09:25 AM
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it looses revs but not same as you would lower revs yourself but like its forces engine to loose revs , exhaust doing some weird farting like sounds like petrol is cut or spark or something like that. so its more complicated then just lowering revs. its interesting like is it not enough just brake wheels, but i would think its all done for safety on road at high speed, i think then it would help a lot if you loos control of car and maybe you not braking by instinct so engine brakes for you and trying keep car on road. maybe not so needed offroad but then again it brakes first so if just braking is enough then its not cuting engine power. like you said if brakes not enough then its cut engine, looses power for like moment and then trying to give back power.
would be interesting to see what is that x mode , what it does and is that separate box or its just software written for VDC. you could really make very capable car if you could like wrote separate programs like positions for your VDC like 3 options : light , middle and hard traction control. same as done on land cruisers whats called : multi terrain select. its nothing more then software written for traction control in different levels .
if we could have that would be really awesome. or could put x mode on older VDC cars .

if you would like to see wiring for VDC module on legacy 2004. should be same as 2nd gen outbacks VDC. its from page 318
http://schnooze.com/files/legacy_man...y%20Wiring.pdf
thats some serious stuff going on there haha ...
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Good find with the schnoose.com, I'll show it to my friend, will sure help !
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I have contacted a few persons that could be able to help me with this mod, the answer is it is not possible to use the VDC without all the sensors but we're trying to find another way to make it work and have an idea of how it could be done....
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Sounds like splitting the hand brake into individual levers for each side would be much easier mod and achieve the same thing - at least on the rear, which is what's really doing all the work when climbing IMO.

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Old 13th March 2018, 01:06 AM
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I have good idea on how to do it. Just take that outback lift it and drive it with VDC.
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When climbing a rutted hill with diagonal spin, you can't crawl slowly enough with a Subaru and try to pull the right lever to brake the right wheel. I have already tried but it is not efficient. Maybe should I try harder ?

I like having challenges and try new possibilities, and doing this makes me happy the same as when I go offroad !

Now we are three on the project but it will take some time as we all have a real life, like wife and children...
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Here is a link of the idea we are thinking about

http://rcarduino.blogspot.ch/2013/06...ction.html?m=1
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